“kill myself” was the most common answer when they contemplated the possibility of life as a girl
Yeah, tell me again how misogyny “isn’t real” and men and boys actually “love”, “like” and “respect the female sex”? This is how deep misogynistic propaganda runs in this world. Men and boys are so viscerally contemptuous of anything or anyone who/that is female or feminine, or perceived to be female or feminine, that they would rather commit suicide than to be associated with— or become a member of— the female sex. As Germaine Greer said, “women have no idea how much men hate them.”
(Source: thevinckanator)
As feminists, we tend to think a lot about male privilege (stuff like the fact that men are more likely to be bosses and CEOs and less likely to get raped), but not very much about female privilege. I stumbled across this, a list of female privileges:
As a woman …
1. I have a much lower chance of being murdered than a man.
2. I have a much lower chance of being driven to successfully commit suicide than a man.
3. I have a lower chance of being a victim of a violent assault than a man.
4. I have probably been taught that it is acceptable to cry.
5. I will probably live longer than the average man.
6. Most people in society probably will not see my overall worthiness as a person being exclusively tied to how high up in the hierarchy I rise.
7. I have a much better chance of being considered to be a worthy mate for someone, even if I’m unemployed with little money, than a man.
8. I am given much greater latitude to form close, intimate friendships than a man is.
9. My chance of suffering a work-related injury or illness is significantly lower than a man’s.
10. My chance of being killed on the job is a tiny fraction of a man’s.
11. If I shy away from fights, it is unlikely that this will damage my standing in my peer group or call into question my worthiness as a sex partner.
12. I am not generally expected to be capable of violence. If I lack this capacity, this will generally not be seen as a damning personal deficiency.
13. If I was born in North America since WWII, I can be almost certain that my genitals were not mutilated soon after birth, without anesthesia.
14. If I attempt to hug a friend in joy, it’s much less likely that my friend will wonder about my sexuality or pull away in unease.
15. If I seek a hug in solace from a close friend, I’ll have much less concern about how my friend will interpret the gesture or whether my worthiness as a member of my gender will be called into question.
16. I generally am not compelled by the rules of my sex to wear emotional armor in interactions with most people.
17. I am frequently the emotional center of my family.
18. I am allowed to wear clothes that signify ‘vulnerability’, ‘playful openness’, and ’softness’.
19. I am allowed to BE vulnerable, playful, and soft without calling my worthiness as a human being into question.
20. If I interact with other people’s children — particularly people I don’t know very well — I do not have to worry much about the interaction being misinterpreted.
21. If I have trouble accommodating to some aspects of gender demands, I have a much greater chance than a man does of having a sympathetic audience to discuss the unreasonableness of the demand, and a much lower chance that this failure to accommodate will be seen as signifying my fundamental inadequacy as a member of my gender.
22. I am less likely to be shamed for being sexually inactive than a man.
23. From my late teens through menopause, for most levels of sexual attractiveness, it is easier for me to find a sex partner at my attractiveness level than it is for a man.
24. My role in my child’s life is generally seen as more important than the child’s father’s role.[source]
What do you guys think? Are these valid? Which ones are not valid? I don’t know much about the statistical claims, but I would certainly agree with points like 4, it is much more socially acceptable for me to cry than a man, or generally display emotions other than anger or desire.
Thoughts?
Have I completely responded to these “privileges” before? If not, this is as good a time as any.
As a woman …
1. I have a much lower chance of being murdered than a man.
But a much higher chance of being murdered by an intimate partner, making you not safe in your own home. Also, the majority of murderers are men.
2. I have a much lower chance of being driven to successfully commit suicide than a man.
This is disingenuous. Men aren’t being driven to suicide more successfully, they actually just happen to be more successful when they attempt. This sentence makes it seem as though more men are driven to suicide, when in fact more women attempt. The fact that men are more successful is generally attributed to the fact that they employ more effective methods, such as the use of guns or other weapons. Now, you may be able to say that the socialization that leads to men using these methods is a problem, and that I’d agree with. But let’s not pretend as though men are offin’ themselves right and left because of some matriarchy or something.
3. I have a lower chance of being a victim of a violent assault than a man.
Is sexual assault included in this? By conservative estimates, at least 1 out of every 6 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime. Also, women are still more often victimized by someone they know, making them less safe in their personal lives, and men are more likely to be victimized by strangers (again, mostly men).
4. I have probably been taught that it is acceptable to cry.
Sure. But what social power does crying get us? Hillary Clinton was accused of crying during her campaign trail and it was a big fuckin’ deal. It showed she couldn’t handle the big time political arena, according to lots of folks. So female willingness to show emotion still keeps them out of arenas of power, even if it is considered “ok” in other settings. Besides, feminists are the ones who continuously say that it is ok for men to learn emotional language and expression, so MRAs holding this up as some kind of “privilege” or “checkmate, feminists” is counter-intuitive.
5. I will probably live longer than the average man.
Um, ok. Is the implied argument here because women’s health is taken care of so much better than men’s? Because um, need I bring up the fact that original research on heart disease was done only on men? And now it’s come to light that women’s heart disease can manifest differently? Oh, and that said heart disease is the number one killer of women?
6. Most people in society probably will not see my overall worthiness as a person being exclusively tied to how high up in the hierarchy I rise.
Wait, so no greatness is expected of women, and this is a privilege?
7. I have a much better chance of being considered to be a worthy mate for someone, even if I’m unemployed with little money, than a man.
Because women’s labor is mostly unpaid and has been historically. Essentially the value in the match is that the man is getting a free maid, baby machine, sex partner, cook, etc. Or perhaps the woman is particularly adherent to social beauty standards, and therein lies the value (i.e. a trophy wife, which, to maintain that standard of beauty actually take quite a bit of work).
8. I am given much greater latitude to form close, intimate friendships than a man is.
How are we talking here? I mean, there are plenty of famous friendships that men have had throughout the ages. I mean, sure, maybe guys are socialized into minimal physical contact and not using emotional language, etc. but that doesn’t mean that men are encouraged not to have friends.
9. My chance of suffering a work-related injury or illness is significantly lower than a man’s.
This and the next are just about the only one on this list that has any sort of validity. Although, this is more of a class issue than a gender issue. It just so happens that women in general are not valued for their physical labor (in the sense of lifting heavy things, construction work, etc.) and as such are not considered worthy of these (higher paying) jobs. But the danger comes from those who are higher above the menial workers in these positions not adhering to safety requirements or trying to make sure those safety requirements don’t exist in the first place.
10. My chance of being killed on the job is a tiny fraction of a man’s.
11. If I shy away from fights, it is unlikely that this will damage my standing in my peer group or call into question my worthiness as a sex partner.
So, men can’t show feminine qualities because of what other men will think (largely, since this is what status is generally determined by). Why is this a female privilege again?
12. I am not generally expected to be capable of violence. If I lack this capacity, this will generally not be seen as a damning personal deficiency.
Um, what? Maybe not “damning”, but it’s certainly seen as a deficiency. Women are not strong because they are seen as not violent. Women cannot fight. Women cannot defend themselves. Women are helpless. This attitude has historically kept women in places of subservience, not only because it is common social attitude but because it is internalized. So, even if women break from that, they’re told they cannot. This is patriarchal gender roles at work, and it’s something feminists are trying to break from.
13. If I was born in North America since WWII, I can be almost certain that my genitals were not mutilated soon after birth, without anesthesia.
And women grow up hating everything else about their bodies. Oh, and they also end up getting plastic surgery on their genitals. So baby boys are mutilated before they really know what’s going on. Women are made to be complicit in what can be considered their own mutilation, and they pay for the privilege.
I’m not saying that women getting plastic surgery is always a mutilation. But what I think is a mutilation is the distorted bodily images that are thrown at women every day with little to no deviation. If we had more deviation and women still chose plastic surgery, that would be much better.
14. If I attempt to hug a friend in joy, it’s much less likely that my friend will wonder about my sexuality or pull away in unease.
Heterosexism issues. This also happens with women, depending on the person.
15. If I seek a hug in solace from a close friend, I’ll have much less concern about how my friend will interpret the gesture or whether my worthiness as a member of my gender will be called into question.
Heterosexism, again.
16. I generally am not compelled by the rules of my sex to wear emotional armor in interactions with most people.
Oh you know, only if you want to be taken seriously in political or business arenas.
17. I am frequently the emotional center of my family.
But not the power figure.
18. I am allowed to wear clothes that signify ‘vulnerability’, ‘playful openness’, and ’softness’.
And then if you do, you get blamed for any sexual advance or assault that anyone chooses to commit.
19. I am allowed to BE vulnerable, playful, and soft without calling my worthiness as a human being into question.
You know, I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to notice, but essentially every time this list says that the man’s “worthiness as a human being” is called into question, what they’re really saying is that the man will be called a “sissy” or will be likened to a woman. I think that’s telling on a “female privilege checklist”.
20. If I interact with other people’s children — particularly people I don’t know very well — I do not have to worry much about the interaction being misinterpreted.
Mostly because men aren’t expected to know about children, want anything to do with children, etc. This is why they’re much more accepted into the public sphere. There’s very little social power that comes with interacting with children, mostly because children are by and large undervalued despite what a lot of the hoopla regarding kids in our society might imply.
21. If I have trouble accommodating to some aspects of gender demands, I have a much greater chance than a man does of having a sympathetic audience to discuss the unreasonableness of the demand, and a much lower chance that this failure to accommodate will be seen as signifying my fundamental inadequacy as a member of my gender.
Mostly because patriarchy and male privilege relies on complicity among men. That’s also why there’s such heavy policing of gender roles.
22. I am less likely to be shamed for being sexually inactive than a man.
No, in fact a woman’s entire value is placed on her sexuality, and she is lauded for remaining “pure” and shamed for making conscious sexual choices. Golly, what a privilege. I’m so sorry someone likens a man to a woman if he chooses not to have sex. Poor, poor men.
23. From my late teens through menopause, for most levels of sexual attractiveness, it is easier for me to find a sex partner at my attractiveness level than it is for a man.
“At my attractiveness level”? Let me get this straight, dudes don’t get access to the gals they think are hottest, and they think women do, so this is a female privilege? I also like how they don’t take into account the work that women have to put into beauty ideals in order to attract those men.
24. My role in my child’s life is generally seen as more important than the child’s father’s role.
This is not true. There are very few people bemoaning the lack of mothers in the lives of children, or few people examining what the lack of motherhood does to children. Oh wait, could that be because men more often don’t partake in parenting and thus leave it up to the mother? Again, what a privilege!
Ok. So there’s a debunking of the “female privilege checklist”. Merry Christmas folks.
Nicely done, STFUF.
This is a pretty comprehensive rebuff. I’d just like to add a smidge more.
I would also add that even if women have a greater chance of “finding a sexual partner at their attractiveness level” (whatever that means… and incidentally i don’t believe it’s actually true) for the c. 25-30 yrs between late teens and menopause, women also have a greater chance of being subjected to unwanted sexual contact throughout our lives—lucky us, eh? Plus, after menopause/after the age of about 40 (you know, the remaining 40-odd years of life a woman’s life) women aren’t [socially] permitted to be sexual and effectively cease to exist as a result.
How AWESOME is this privilege??? GOD! I’m so blessed.
This is an excellent response to so-called female privilege.
I will add a few more points:
5. I will probably live longer than the average man.
The main reason for this is because women are held back from “risky” occupations and “dangerous” leisure activities - and are generally wrapped in cotton wool their whole life. This is seen as being “for their own good” because, you know, women totes aren’t able to make decision for themselves and because men always know what’s best for them. Remind me how this is a privilege again?
8. I am given much greater latitude to form close, intimate friendships than a man is.
This whole concept is explored in more detail here.
9. My chance of suffering a work-related injury or illness is significantly lower than a man’s. / 10. My chance of being killed on the job is a tiny fraction of a man’s.
Ummm, this is because fewer women work in the first place - mostly because they’re expected to stay home and raise the children. In many countries around the world, this isn’t a choice; in countries where it is a choice, there is still considerable coercion for women to assume the not-employed-child-raising role.
I would also like to highlight the most important part of what stfufauxminists said:
Essentially every time this list says that the man’s “worthiness as a human being” is called into question, what they’re really saying is that the man will be called a “sissy” or will be likened to a woman. I think that’s telling on a “female privilege checklist”.
I talked about this in more detail here. This quote is also really relevant.
Kiddo told me that when it’s bathroom break time in her Kindergarten class that the boys go as a group and the girls go as a group.
“Except for A. She thinks she’s a boy,” said Kiddo.
“Well, maybe A is a boy,” I responded.
“No, she’s a girl!”
“How do you know?”
“Because…she’s a girl.”
“Ok, Kiddo. Let me explain something to you. A person can be born with a vagina, but still be a boy because that’s what they are inside. Also, a person can be born with a penis but still be a girl because that’s what they are inside. Your body doesn’t decide if you are a boy or a girl. It’s just something you know.”
“Really?”
“Yes. So, if A asks you to call them a boy, will you?”
“No.”
“But why?”
“Because everyone says she’s a girl!”
“Well, there are a lot of people who don’t understand that being a boy or a girl is not something they decide. It’s something each person knows about themself. You know you’re a girl, right?”
“Yes.”
“So, don’t you think A knows if they are a boy or a girl?”
“…Yes.”
“So if A asks you to call them a boy, will you?”
“Yes.”
“That’s great, Kiddo. You know why? Because, like I said, there a lot of people who won’t believe A and that’s gonna be something that hurts them a lot. But if A has just one person that believes them and treats them the way they want to be treated, that could help A a lot.”
“Ok. If A asks me, I will.”
OH GEE BUT WAIT! According to most people this is something that kids just can’t understand!!
While Kiddo may not understand everything about sex vs. gender and identity, she understands being nice and helping people.
I don’t doubt that we’ll probably have to revisit this topic again, but I honestly do think this is a topic worth talking to your kids about and it can be done.
HOW DIFFICULT. HOW SCARRING.
(Source: lagertha-lodbrok)
There was a discussion a while back on this but I found a book called Random House Webster’s: grammar, usage, and punctuation that has a section titled “Avoiding insensitive and offensive language” and I thought I’d share some of what it has to say on the subject.
Replacing man or men
Man may refer to a male or to a human in general. This ambiguity is often though to be slighting of women.
mankind, man
- human beings, humans, humankind, humanity, people, human race, human species, Homo sapiens, society, men and women
a man who
- someone who, anyone who
man-made
- synthetic, artificial
man in the street
- average person, ordinary person
Using gender-neutral terms for occupations, positions, roles, etc
Terms that specify or imply a particular sex can unnecessarily perpetuate certain stereotypes when used generically.anchorman
- Anchor
bellman, bellboy
- bellhop
businessman
- business executive, manager, business owner, retailer, etc.
chairman
- chairperson
cleaning lady, girl, maid
- housecleaner, housekeeper, cleaning person, office cleaner
clergyman
- member of the clergy, minister, rabbi, priest, pastor, etc.
clergymen
- the clergy
congressman
- representative, member of Congress, legislator
fireman
- firefighter
forefather
- ancestor
girl/gal Friday
- assistant
housewife
- homemaker
insurance man
- insurance agent
layman
- layperson, nonspecialist, nonprofessional
mailman, postman
- mail carrier, letter carrier
policeman
- police officer, law enforcement officer
salesman, saleswoman, saleslady, salesgirl
- sales person, sales representative, sales associate, clerk
spokesman
- spokesperson, representative
stewardess, steward
- flight attendant
weatherman
- weather reporter, weathercaster, meteorologist
workman
- worker
actress
- actor
Two Faces
Take a close look at the man and woman pictured here before reading further.
………. ………. …….. …….. …………. ………. ………… ……….. …………. ………..
You probably noticed a resemblance. But it’s more than that. These two pictures are the same face, unaltered, no make-up, nothing. They’re actually the same picture. The only difference is that different contrast was applied. This demonstrates how just a subtle shading alters our assumption of gender.
My vagina is not offensive: my journey to loving my genitals.
At 4-years old, I’m told to call it a “monkey” as the word “vagina” is a bit too vulgar for my otherwise liberal mother.
At 8-years old, my older sister’s favourite insult is “close your legs, you’re attracting flies.”At 11, I realize that my vulva had changed, and I convince myself that I somehow damaged myself through masturbation.
At 12, I learn that virginity = purity, and the best way to be “good” is to not act at all. I start realizing that society thinks the state of my vagina has some bearing on who I am as a human being.
At 13, I hear the boys in my class talking about “beef curtains”, cementing my belief that my vulva will turn off boys forever.
At 14, I become interested in seeing what other women look like “down there” and find my way into the world of internet porn. I realize I do not look the same as porn-stars, and I become ashamed.
At 15, I learn about labiaplasty and seriously consider the logistics of saving up for it.
At 16, I have my first internal exam. I sit with my feet in stirrups convinced the doctor will tell me there’s something wrong with my genitals. When she doesn’t mention anything, I think she’s just being polite.
At 17, my boyfriend “jokingly” tells me my vulva is hideous.
At 19, I tell my new boyfriend about I how I know his disinterest in performing oral sex on me comes from him being disgusted at my genitals (rather than my own lack of interest), I cry, a lot; he tells me I’m being ridiculous and that there’s nothing wrong with me.
Later that year, I listen to my roommate insult a woman he doesn’t like by saying she has a “fat hairy pussy.”
At 20, I confess to a soon-to-be sexual partner that I’ve been putting off sex because I’m terrified he’ll hate my vulva.
At 21, I sit completely naked in a room full of other young women and confess that that years of hurtful comments from loved ones, friends, strangers, and the media have made me have serious amounts of shame about my vulva. I spread my legs and show them what I’ve got. Afterwards, one of the other women approaches me, looks me straight in the eye, and says “you have a beautiful vagina.” I try not to cry. I start to believe her.At 21, I’m just now learning not to hate my genitals. I realize that this culture of shame surrounding the vulva and vagina stem from deep-seeded misogyny, and — really — has nothing to do with me. I have wasted far too much time being ashamed of my perfectly normal, perfectly functioning genitals because of people like these politicians in Michigan who tell me that my body — by virtue of being born female — is offensive. So offensive that its name shan’t even be uttered, lest their ears fall off and their delicate sensibilities are offended.
To them, and to the people like them who are so terrified of my vagina that they feel the need to legislate what I can and can’t do with it: fuck you. My vagina belongs to me. My vulva is perfect the way it is. My body parts are not offensive.

To me this depiction of gender is much more accurate, and allows us to label ourselves anywhere on an infinite spectrum. Instead of putting ourselves on fine lines whilst calling anything off the line abnormal, we can be labeled anything therefor allowing any form of gender expression to be considered normal.
Exactly! The next time someone tells you that feminists are too angry, tell them this.
oh my god THIS
(Source: byebyewiththebathwater)
gender queer
[Music Video: “Andrew in Drag” by The Magnetic Fields: features a man dressing up as a woman, and a woman dressing up as a man]
This is my favourite thing.
I came really close to typing that in capital letters and adding a SQUEE at the end.
Best song. Best video. Best everything. Just watch it.
Unless you are scared of nipples. DO NOT WATCH THIS IF YOU ARE SCARED OF NIPPLES. (This is because there are nipples in it.)
I hate the majority of magazines targeted at women.
Truth. If one of these is on the train and I flick through it, I end up feeling terrible and have to go and read something very feminist to make myself feel better.
[Image description: A convincing rip-off of a Cosmo magazine cover. The background is lavender and Christina Hendricks from “Med Men,” a buxom white woman with red hair, blue eyes, and a slightly quirky smile, is on the cover. Behind her head, the title of the magazine, “Overanalyzing.” All around her are magazine-style headings. In a purple circle: The shame and guilt issue.
Sex again? What are you an alley cat?
Lose 30lbs FAST Chop off your leg!
In big letters: NAKED We’re required to put the word NAKED on the cover.
Do cupcakes make good boyfriends?
Gaze upon the epic prow of Christina Hendricks: The woman your boyfriend masturbates to.
Sexy touch: Tickle his prostate with an egg-beater
PLUS: Death stalks you. The Sexiest sex to sex after sex.
In big letters: SEX: No joke, you need it so badly you’d blow a baboon
“I had to pay for my own drink”: One woman’s horror story.
Mediocre sex now! 3,295,761 tips
Are you talking about having kids one day enough?
Tone your butt until you’re hott enough to be offended when guys appreciate it.
In huge letters: SEX: You’re doing it wrong, dammit!