Lets not argue about how you don’t ‘hate’ gay people. If you didn’t hate them, you’d want them to have the same fucking rights you do.
this is literally the greatest post on tumblr
And facebook.
(Source: proud-atheist)
the bible says adam and eve so if ur name’s not one of those u can’t be in a relationship sorry it’s a sin
Two girls kissing in front of bitches manifesting against same-sex marriage and adoption laws in France.
(Source: canfy)
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I am really bothered by the fact that basically the only reason why gay marriage is illegal is because some people think it’s disgusting. You know, I think peas are disgusting but we’re noT MAKING THAT ILLEGAL ARE WE
(Source: livingsjustawasteofdeath)
I’ve never seen this put so well before.
I’m really fucking sick of “both sides are the same” arguments/excuses where one side is clearly extreme and the other is more middle of the road or “default”.
So much love for this.
This isn’t about mutual tolerance because there’s nothing mutual about it. If we agree to disagree on this issue, you walk away a full member of this society and I don’t. There is no “live and let live” on this issue because Dan Cathy is spending millions to very specifically NOT let me live. I’m not trying to do that to him.
Asking for “mutual tolerance” on this like running up to a bully beating a kid to death on the playground and scolding them both for not getting along. I’m not trying to dissolve Mr. Cathy’s marriage or make his sex illegal. I’m not trying to make him a second-class citizen, or get him killed. He’s doing that to me, folks; I’m just fighting back.
All your life, you’re told to stand up to bullies, but when WE do it, we’re told WE are the ones being intolerant? Well, okay. Yes. I refuse to tolerate getting my ass kicked. “Guilty as charged.”
But what are you guilty of? When you see a bully beating up a smaller kid and you don’t take a side, then you ARE taking a side. You’re siding with the bully. And when you cheer him on, you’re revealing something about your own character that really is a shame.
"Wayne Self, Chick Fellatio (via 3dela)
^ All of this
Whenever I see people honestly saying how we should ‘respect the opinions’ of bigots like Dan Cathy I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at how stupid some people are
Sometimes it’s easy to think that the religious zealots only exist in the US, because all of my religious friends and family are wonderful people whose beliefs do not impose or impact on my life. But this just brings it all back: what many, many Christians are actually saying. I am nearly crying after reading this thread. I am just so disgusted. Here’s what these Christians have to say about gay marriage being legalized in NZ:
“If it’s legal, might as well also allow pedophiles have the right to date kids. Both aren’t natural.”
“marriage is all about legally being bonded so you can produce offspring. how are you supposed to do that when you are gay???”
“I always thought marriage was between a male and a female in order to create a family, but you know over 3000 years worth of teaching and every religion and culture could be wrong xD”
“i don’t really agree with gay rights, think its creepy, and think it should stay alegal”
“”For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh” Genesis 2:24 I am against a law change.”
“perhaps you need to read about what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah. Gay people should not be allowed to get married. However, if they do that is their choice and they will be judged. I am not against gay people personally, however I strongly disagree with the choices they make.”
“Society has made us beleive that its fine, that its n0rmal. It wasnt,it isnt, We have just ‘acepted’ them because we are sheeps of society. God didnt intend it to be that way. Its sad that we are acepting that its normal to have ‘dad amd dad, or other way roundg insted of a mum and dad.if two gay people love ech other that much that they want to be married they should do it in a country where its legal. Of course they are still people with rights and feelings, bt that doesnt mean we should jst agree with the abnormalty .”
“Just because it might become a law does not make it right. With modern pc society, people are afraid of hurting gay peoples feelings. The minority are getting what the majority don’t want. Yes Jesus did say we are to love them and we do but some things just go to far. Jesus did say Marriage is when a man and women come together and become one. A man and a man cannot become one. You know what is right come on stand up for it Marriage is for man and women”
“If it is natural, (food for thought) how come my homosexual friend and his peers who were homosexual and bisexual came to Christ and got rid of their old ways? They shun it. It goes to show it’s just not natural. Pure and simple. I’ll leave it at this, because I’m always misinterpreted by ignorant minds. But in the midst of what is against God, I will oppose it with strong conviction of what is right.”
“God created marriage, the question is for kingdom people - What does the bible say about marriage? Is there anywhere where He endorsed gay relationships?”
“The point of marriage is for a man and a Woman to become one before God. To build your relationship not only with each other, but with God. The bible specifically tells us that homosexuality is unnatural. Wile this is true, I am not against homosexual relationships. But marriage is a sacred unity, and should be kept the way it is. Can two men together produce children? No. Can two women together produce children? No. So perhaps they shouldn’t get married. As stated before, marriage is before God. If God sees that homosexual relationships are unnatural, would he really be able to go and bless a homosexual marriage?”
“Children need a MOTHER and FATHER, not two fathers or two mothers. Can a teenage girl talk to her father about her period, or boys without feeling that something is missing? They need a mother to tell them about their bodies and relationships.”
“I think we are forced to tolerate gay marriage and if we ever speak up against it we are the ones who are judgmental and critical. We speak of equality but when we are in the minority that disagrees we are labled ‘judgmental, haters, critics etc.’ I speak on behalf of my Lord God Almighty and I refuse to tolerate Gay ‘marriage’ of any kind.”
“That shouldnt mean they should be allowed to get married. That means we are just acepting it as ‘normal’ whats gona happen in another 5years, just bcause a man loves 3 woman we shouldnt stand in the way of. ‘love’? Just accept it as normal? Nah. Disagree here. Keep it how God intended. I beleve ‘homosexuality’ can be cured. Stop trying to be ‘different’ . Our world is becoming so corupt by these small things. Bet Jesus will be back soon to put a stop to this silly-ness!”
“By the word of God, Marriage is between a man and woman. To make one flesh. I am not against gay people it’s their choice but when it comes to marriage, under God’s word it’s very clear. I thank God for our current law on this which is by his word and disagree any change. God made Earth not humans we are his children.”
“Same dif tho. Marrige is 4 man and woman. If we change it and acept its ok 4 man and man or woman and woman, simply because they are ppl too, and lov ech other…then y say n0 to dad and daughter or man and 3wives. I dnt think christains r judgemental, I thnk they hav an opinion just like evry other human.”
“I am only voicing my opinion. I love evryone equally and do not judge.”
“People who love someone of the same sex can’t help it and they can’t change it! They are born with a fault in their genes that makes them pretty much a female in a male body.”
“I’m not against homosexuality. I’m merely voicing my OWN opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Those of you talking about Human Rights Act. You are taking away OUR rights by not allowing us to voice our own opinions. God hasn’t decided every event that will happen in each person’s life. We all have choices. The choices we make, whether others approve or not mould our futures, our entire being. You can have homosexual desires, and be a Christian. But you don’t act on it. You may have sadistic or homicidal desires and be a Christian. But you don’t act on it. I am not judging others, I am eerily voicing my opinion, and I understand completely if others disagree with my opinion. Because that is your OWN opinion.”
“I am not against gay people but like the 20,000+ people that signed the petition to protect marriage in NZ, I am against gay marriage. No offense, but like everybody else we are allowed to voice our own opinions/rights even if there are people that agree to disagree.”
“Those are decisions by Man not God. Jesus will return soon and restore all :)”
HOLY SHIT NEW ZEALAND STOP BEING COCKHEADS.
//sighs heavily.
Please may this Bill pass in NZ so that the stupid people who think that only straight people should have the right to having their love legally recognised can see that gay marriage won’t actually change jack shit for those straight people. Ugh.
//resists urge to rant.
//Doesn’t resist urge.
This really pisses me off, and I mean really. Not just the general intolerance going on, but that fact that it’s accepted to hide behind religion. You can say “I don’t like this because it’s against my religion” and be a fucking asshole about it. We shouldn’t have to legalize gay marriage because it should already be legal. Love is blind. Love doesn’t care about gender. And you know what else love doesn’t care about? The ignorant people around it. Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t fucking get one.
Ahem. May I assert myself?
I am a straight, female, Christian, New Zealander.
Klaine is my OTP.
I don’t think anything more needs to be said.
Hello there, Derailer! Nice reading comprehension skills you got there.
Listen, coming into a conversation where people are complaining about a group doing oppressive things and crying “but we’re not all like that” is like coming into a discussion where PoC are complaining about racist shit white people are doing and completely derailing the conversation to make it about your hurt fee-fees and assuring the PoC that YOU’RE not like that though!!. Look, we GET IT that not all Christians are homophobes. Did you even read the beginning of my post? I have many, many Christians in my life who are just as keen as me for gay marriage to be legalized. My post did not indicate anywhere that I am of the view that all Christians hate gays.
Instead of getting all hissy about a post that you think is attacking your religion, how about you challenge these bigots instead? THEY’RE the ones who are making your religion look shitty. To make a snarky post directed at ME is basically saying “It matters more to me that someone is criticizing my religion, than the fact that my religion is being used as a tool of bigotry, hate and oppression.”
If you are going to stay silent in the case of oppression, and only speak up when someone else says something about the oppression, you are an enabler of the oppression to happen. Get over yourself that someone is criticizing the negative impacts of religion, and actually consider thinking, “wow, she has a point, maybe I should do something about this”.
If you are such a great ally, challenge your fellow Christians who are spreading hate. Don’t challenge the person who is making you aware of that fact.
Let me just leave you with a couple of links/pictures:


I don’t think anything more needs to be said.
Sometimes it’s easy to think that the religious zealots only exist in the US, because all of my religious friends and family are wonderful people whose beliefs do not impose or impact on my life. But this just brings it all back: what many, many Christians are actually saying. I am nearly crying after reading this thread. I am just so disgusted. Here’s what these Christians have to say about gay marriage being legalized in NZ:
“If it’s legal, might as well also allow pedophiles have the right to date kids. Both aren’t natural.”
“marriage is all about legally being bonded so you can produce offspring. how are you supposed to do that when you are gay???”
“I always thought marriage was between a male and a female in order to create a family, but you know over 3000 years worth of teaching and every religion and culture could be wrong xD”
“i don’t really agree with gay rights, think its creepy, and think it should stay alegal”
“”For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh” Genesis 2:24 I am against a law change.”
“perhaps you need to read about what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah. Gay people should not be allowed to get married. However, if they do that is their choice and they will be judged. I am not against gay people personally, however I strongly disagree with the choices they make.”
“Society has made us beleive that its fine, that its n0rmal. It wasnt,it isnt, We have just ‘acepted’ them because we are sheeps of society. God didnt intend it to be that way. Its sad that we are acepting that its normal to have ‘dad amd dad, or other way roundg insted of a mum and dad.if two gay people love ech other that much that they want to be married they should do it in a country where its legal. Of course they are still people with rights and feelings, bt that doesnt mean we should jst agree with the abnormalty .”
“Just because it might become a law does not make it right. With modern pc society, people are afraid of hurting gay peoples feelings. The minority are getting what the majority don’t want. Yes Jesus did say we are to love them and we do but some things just go to far. Jesus did say Marriage is when a man and women come together and become one. A man and a man cannot become one. You know what is right come on stand up for it Marriage is for man and women”
“If it is natural, (food for thought) how come my homosexual friend and his peers who were homosexual and bisexual came to Christ and got rid of their old ways? They shun it. It goes to show it’s just not natural. Pure and simple. I’ll leave it at this, because I’m always misinterpreted by ignorant minds. But in the midst of what is against God, I will oppose it with strong conviction of what is right.”
“God created marriage, the question is for kingdom people - What does the bible say about marriage? Is there anywhere where He endorsed gay relationships?”
“The point of marriage is for a man and a Woman to become one before God. To build your relationship not only with each other, but with God. The bible specifically tells us that homosexuality is unnatural. Wile this is true, I am not against homosexual relationships. But marriage is a sacred unity, and should be kept the way it is. Can two men together produce children? No. Can two women together produce children? No. So perhaps they shouldn’t get married. As stated before, marriage is before God. If God sees that homosexual relationships are unnatural, would he really be able to go and bless a homosexual marriage?”
“Children need a MOTHER and FATHER, not two fathers or two mothers. Can a teenage girl talk to her father about her period, or boys without feeling that something is missing? They need a mother to tell them about their bodies and relationships.”
“I think we are forced to tolerate gay marriage and if we ever speak up against it we are the ones who are judgmental and critical. We speak of equality but when we are in the minority that disagrees we are labled ‘judgmental, haters, critics etc.’ I speak on behalf of my Lord God Almighty and I refuse to tolerate Gay ‘marriage’ of any kind.”
“That shouldnt mean they should be allowed to get married. That means we are just acepting it as ‘normal’ whats gona happen in another 5years, just bcause a man loves 3 woman we shouldnt stand in the way of. ‘love’? Just accept it as normal? Nah. Disagree here. Keep it how God intended. I beleve ‘homosexuality’ can be cured. Stop trying to be ‘different’ . Our world is becoming so corupt by these small things. Bet Jesus will be back soon to put a stop to this silly-ness!”
“By the word of God, Marriage is between a man and woman. To make one flesh. I am not against gay people it’s their choice but when it comes to marriage, under God’s word it’s very clear. I thank God for our current law on this which is by his word and disagree any change. God made Earth not humans we are his children.”
“Same dif tho. Marrige is 4 man and woman. If we change it and acept its ok 4 man and man or woman and woman, simply because they are ppl too, and lov ech other…then y say n0 to dad and daughter or man and 3wives. I dnt think christains r judgemental, I thnk they hav an opinion just like evry other human.”
“I am only voicing my opinion. I love evryone equally and do not judge.”
“People who love someone of the same sex can’t help it and they can’t change it! They are born with a fault in their genes that makes them pretty much a female in a male body.”
“I’m not against homosexuality. I’m merely voicing my OWN opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Those of you talking about Human Rights Act. You are taking away OUR rights by not allowing us to voice our own opinions. God hasn’t decided every event that will happen in each person’s life. We all have choices. The choices we make, whether others approve or not mould our futures, our entire being. You can have homosexual desires, and be a Christian. But you don’t act on it. You may have sadistic or homicidal desires and be a Christian. But you don’t act on it. I am not judging others, I am eerily voicing my opinion, and I understand completely if others disagree with my opinion. Because that is your OWN opinion.”
“I am not against gay people but like the 20,000+ people that signed the petition to protect marriage in NZ, I am against gay marriage. No offense, but like everybody else we are allowed to voice our own opinions/rights even if there are people that agree to disagree.”
“Those are decisions by Man not God. Jesus will return soon and restore all :)”

This point can never be repeated often enough.
(Source: commie-pinko-liberal)
I do not believe it is possible for someone to oppose same-sex marriage and not be a bigot. The denial of rights is inherently hateful. Saying I am better than you is hateful. Saying you aren’t quite a fully deserving human, but a lower caste member deserving of second-class citizenship is hateful. Saying my religion tells me to do this so I don’t care what your religion says, I’m going to make you follow my religion’s rules is inherently hateful. Saying love is wrong is hateful.
This is a big issue in New Zealand at the moment, and every morning when I read the opinion section of the paper, I nearly barf up my Special K at all the homophobes and religious zealots that I naiively didn’t expect to have in NZ. This is an important reminder. There IS no middle ground.