So let me get this straight. Not ALL women and feminists fit under these categories, but I think a substantial amount of them do.
- Women are offended by prostitution/escorting
- Women are offended by the idea of RealDolls / Realistic silicon sex dolls / robotic partners with AI when we invent them
- Women are offended by men who buy into the whole “Waifu” and “2D is better than 3DPD” deal
But it’s okay for
- Women to have dildos shaped like gigantic monstrous penises
- Women to have bachelorette parties with mail strippers flapping their dongs around
- Women to fantasize and have posters and magazines about George Clooney, Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake etc all over the place and be obsessive over them
This seems to me like women KNOW that the only power they have over men is their pussies. And if men generally get passed the desire of sex with them, they have nothing. Because as they SHOULD be equals, if they don’t have pussy to offer, they are no better in any way than my bros. And when I have a problem with my bros, its not like when having a problem with a girlfriend. If it’s over, then that happens. But I don’t cry in bed over them. I don’t spend all my money on them. I don’t pay for their rent, buy them dinners, drive them places, or show them off as trophies.
I am all for women being equals. I have nothing but respect for women who work hard, start a business, enter academia and discover or invent new and amazing things, and dedicate their lives to hard work and passion. But I see a lot of women riding the coattails of men.
If they no longer have sex to offer, and they have to compete with other alternatives men have, the free ride is over. No longer will they be able to ride coattails. Now they will have to WORK. They will have to PROVE their worth. They won’t be able to just get by with minimal effort, or get by because they have big tits or walk around with their clam hanging out.
Nobody gives a single fuck about me unless I PROVE and WORK for what I want. And I have to EARN my respect. I can’t get through life just having my dick hanging out. Any women who is against sex dolls, prostitution and escorting, and the whole “waifu” deal know that the game is over and they are done. The women who DON’T have a problem with these things are too fucking busy WORKING and living a REAL life to feel threatened by this shit, because they have deep and beautiful value.
It must have been fun while it lasted. But you wanted equality and you’ve got it. Get ready to work in the coal mine where nobody cares whether or not you exist. Welcome to the world!
This person thinks they are for equality and yet thinks (cis) women are only worth their genitals? Fuck you dude.
Like they just said “no one cares about me as a person unless I do a thing to make them care” WHILE REDUCING ALL WOMEN TO THEIR SEXUAL PARTS. You think that is RESPECTING us?
I want to cry. “Women know the only power they have over men is their pussies”. They are literally acknowledging that men have power over women in every other walk of life, but still complaining that this is not enough for them (also it’s totally not true, but I’ll get to that later.
They actually think life is easier for women for some unknown reason, while also knowing that women have no social power. I mean despite the fact that even the most privileged women, white women, are on average earning 23% less than men for the same work. We are given shorter hours and get less promotions because “what if you have a baby tho”. Jesus christ. It’s so hard to be a guy though. Only having MOST of the power instead of ALL OF IT.
I mean we clearly have so much sexual control over men. That’s what men like to say to hide the fact that 91% of rape victims are women. And that 1 in 6 women from the USA will experience sexual violence in their life. This person calls that control over men.
This person actually thinks women control men with their vagina. Like if you are seriously worried that women are manipulating you with their magic holes, I am going to have to say you need to talk to someone about that. That says more about you than anyone else.
And for the love of all things good, WHEN HAVE YOU EVER WORKED IN A COAL MINE?? You don’t work in a coal mine. Stop talking about coal mines MRAs, you need to not do that. Unless you actually work in a coalmine. Women work in factories too, boys. Where do you think your clothes are from? This is a class issue not a gender one.
In fact, women aren’t allowed to work in a whole bunch of trades such as mining and that results in them being given pink collar reception jobs which are part time and pay half the wages. So shut up talking to me about the real world.
Have fun with your sex doll and imaginary girlfriend who is supposedly taking all your money. (come on, we all know you don’t have a girlfriend or a job that pays you enough to pay for any of her shit)
I want to add to this that MRAs really aren’t there to help men.
I’m a Big Sister for Big Brothers Big Sisters and we run campaigns nationally every year that specifically target men to sign up to be Bigs. EVERY YEAR. Because the average wait for a girl to be matched to a female Big is 6 weeks after being enrolled. The average time for a boy to be matched with a male Big is 6 months to a year because so few men actually sign up to be mentors and many of them don’t actually complete the one year commitment to their Littles, either.
And this is a deficit that is particularly prevalent at my agency.
Mentoring a kid through a program like BBBS is one of the most rewarding things I have ever done in my life. It has also been the most challenging thing I have ever done in my life. As a Big, I have a direct impact on someone else’s life and little boys, in particular, who do not have a father figure at home benefit very strongly from having a male mentor in their life. They typically do better in school, have a better social life, and are more likely to accomplish long-term goals and take responsibility for their actions and mistakes and learn from them.
If MRAs were ACTUALLY interested in helping men and boys, they would be mentors. But instead they sit on the internet in their Fedoras and bemoan the fact that women aren’t being forced by the government to sleep with them.
(We can argue about whether having MRAs be mentors to impressionable young men is a good idea in a separate post because obviously there are better role models for young men and boys but the point still stands that there are very clear things that MRAs could do to tangibly and immediately help men and boys but instead they focus all of their time and energy denigrating rape victims, berating feminists, and whining about services that specifically serve women.)
So, instead of just hand wringing about how males are targeted and denigrated within all aspects of life, I decided one way of trying to help would be to join the Big Brother Big Sister program. The first meeting I went to explained that there are twice as many boys looking for a match than there are girls. They said it was partly because more females than males volunteer. They didn’t mention how most boys have a mother in there life but no father because of the misandric divorce courts but I digress…
Anyways, as part of the process, I had a one on one interview with a female member of the organisation to assess if I was suitable to be a Big, and if so, they wanted to know about me so they could match me with a little. I mentioned that I carry a firearm everywhere I legally can, I also wanted to know what protections were in place to protect me from unfounded accusations, and I expressed how I couldn’t be with a Little if his father had been forcibly removed from his life because of the vindictive actions of the mother. I think the final one sealed my fate however. I’m not particularly upset at being rejected because after looking into it more, the activities deemed appropriate to do with your Little seem somewhat feminine, but it just further hammers home that even when you try to help because there are boys out there screaming for some positive male role models in there lives, you’re only allowed to show them masculine things that females deem are appropriate. It just makes me sick.
Yeah, because it has nothing to do with the fact that you said you would carry a gun around the kid, or suggested you might be accused of assaulting him and that the organization would need to stand up for you, or that you don’t want to help any children whose mother is divorced. It’s just so amazing how they don’t understand how screwed up they sound to everybody else. This is perfectly reasonable to the guy and the other forum members. -_- Also, he doesn’t sound like he cares about helping boys at all. It’s all about him, his hatred of divorced mothers, his need to carry a gun, his paranoia of “unfounded accusations”, and that the organization should stand up for his ‘rights’ over those of the child. He doesn’t come off as somebody who really cares about the kid he’d be helping, just somebody who wanted to do something to make himself feel good.
It is sad though that we don’t have more men volunteering and trying to help in these programs. :( (Though, not the MRAs, they would be so toxic for the kids.)
I’m fucking blown away. Blown away. Fucking asshole MRAs.
THEY ALSO FIND FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ACTUAL MALE VICTIMS OF RAPE.
I need masculism because men are more likely to die on the job, and that’s somehow the fault of feminists even though men have tried to keep women out of those jobs since the beginning of time.
the idea that men are discriminated against when it comes to child custody cases is patently false
(◕‿◕✿) facts about divorce for feminists and MRAs:
- in most (51%) of cases, both parents decided on their own (out of court) that the mother was to receive full custody
- in 29% of custody cases, the decision was made without any third party involvement
- in 91% of cases, the decision for the mother to have custody was made without court involvement
- of those who go to court, 70% of men who seek custody of their child receive it
- of those 70%, 1/3 of the cases cited domestic abuse as part of the reason for divorce
- women who mention having been victims of domestic abuse in court are less likely to receive custody of their children than women who didn’t
i’m tired of seeing posts on feminism by both feminists and MRAs citing “gender bias in custody cases” as a problem we need to solve. women aren’t unfairly receiving custody more often. abusive men are unfairly receiving custody.
the fact is, if my dad had actually attended his court ordered anger management type classes, i would legally have been required to spend a portion of my time with him until i turned 18, even though he beat my mother and abused me.
don’t let anyone make you think that the scale isn’t still tipped toward men in a court of law.
*men control media*
*men create idea that men are bumbling idiots*
*men create umpteenth shows based on the idea*
*men blame women for this*
Female privilege is not being shamed for natural bodily functions like spontaneous erections and nocturnal emissions.
Yeah because no one freaks out or shames our bodies when we discuss our periods or anything
Or not shaving our body hair which is natural.
Um, no, actually, periods are idolized. A woman’s first period is considered a rite of passage. She’s a woman now! What happens with a man’s first erection or ejaculation? Nothing, at best.
And although there are people that are assholes about menstruation, society looks down on that kind of thing. Society has absolutely no problem making fun of anything related to male sexuality. Cf American Pie, I Love You Beth Cooper, Easy A, etc. Where in popular media are periods treated the way that male erections and ejaculation are? Carrie, a movie made in the 1970s that’s also clearly a cautionary tale?
You realize you can cover up the fact that you haven’t shaved your body hair and still get a job? Men can’t get jobs unless they shave their beards and keep their hair short.
LOL, Oh please tell me more about how easy it is to be a female in this society and how oppressed you poor males are because your boners aren’t appreciated. Women’s sexuality isn’t idolized, it is completely objectified and quantified. We are used to sell shit and turned into objects for your beloved erections. And people looking down on those who are assholes about periods? Have you lived in the real world? Women get shit all the time from fathers, brother, boyfriends, guy friends etc. All of them say something along the lines of ‘gross, don’t talk about your period, well now my appetite is gone, I don’t trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn’t die.” etc.
And movies that make fun of periods? Dirty Love, Superbad?
And there is way more shame attached to a woman who does not shave her armpits then there is to a man that doesn’t shave his face. Look at celebrities. A male actor with a beard looks distinguished and sexy, see George Clooney,Brad Pitt, Ryan Gosling, etc. A female celebrity with armpit hair? They are called disgusting, unhygienic like when Julie Roberts did it,
Do you really not see the difference between getting an erection and getting your period? Men get erections to have sex or masturbate both of which are usually pleasurable and while I admit walking up with sperm all over you must not be fun have you ever woken up covered in your own blood? And I mean covered. Like I guess I am getting shower at 3 in the morning and dragging my sheets and comforter down to the laundry room to wash. All while feeling like someone is clawing out your insides with a giant knife while stabbing you in the back. I guarantee there is nothing pleasurable about bleeding for a week every month from 13 to 50.
“What happens with a man’s first erection or ejaculation? Nothing, at best.” I CAN’T STOP LAUGHIGN
The men’s movement seems to stay stuck on two points. The first is that men don’t really feel very good about themselves. How could you? The second is that men come to me or to other feminists and say: “What you’re saying about men isn’t true. It isn’t true of me. I don’t feel that way. I’m opposed to all of this.”
And I say: don’t tell me. Tell the pornographers. Tell the pimps. Tell the warmakers. Tell the rape apologists and the rape celebrationists and the pro-rape ideologues. Tell the novelists who think that rape is wonderful. Tell Larry Flynt. Tell Hugh Hefner. There’s no point in telling me. I’m only a woman. There’s nothing I can do about it. These men presume to speak for you. They are in the public arena saying that they represent you. If they don’t, then you had better let them know."
Andrea Dworkin- I Want a 24 Hour Truce in Which There is No Rape, ( http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.html )
My favourite part is how this sexist graphic inadvertently illustrates why feminism is a serious and necessary movement and “men’s rights” is a fucking joke.
“MRAs” have the luxury of “calmly explaining their points” because they aren’t actually being oppressed at all. It’s a calm (non-)issue. They’re not being actively hurt. They’re not living in a society that marginalizes and erases them and blames them for the assaults and rapes they suffer. They’re the most privileged, high-paid, pampered class of people on the planet. Being an “MRA” is a hobby; it means nothing - the failure of their “movement” would have no consequences, because they’d still be at the top. They’ve nothing to lose, so there’s no pressure on them.
Feminists, on the other hand? It’s serious. Women are marginalized and are erased and are oppressed and are earning only cents on the dollar and are living in a culture that encourages assault and rape of them and then blames them for it. Feminism isn’t just “making some point,” it’s a real struggle against a system that continually hurts women every single day. Wouldn’t you be a little bit angry too? Wouldn’t you get a little bit frustrated? Wouldn’t that probably explode into fucking rage if you were told that you’re going to be ignored if you’re not “civil” in fighting back against the system that is actively hurting you daily?
To even suggest that feminists need to be “civil” in “explaining their points” is a slap in the face because our entire society has not been civil to women for centuries.
And oh yeah, the supposed “problems” MRAs whine about tend to exclusively be products of the fucking patriarchy they support anyway.
GO FUCK YOURSELVES, MRAS.
Language aside …
… this, pretty much.
Misandry is the distress of the privileged. Misogyny is the distress of the downtrodden.
I love you.
I want to bold my favorite bits of glamguitarist's comment but I'd end up bolding the whole thing.
Hey I have a crazy idea, what about instead of men’s rights or women’s rights we just call it all human rights and stop separating them by gender because that’s what caused the problem in the first place
and why don’t we give medicine equally to sick and healthy people??
why don’t we donate food equally to the hungry and the full??
why don’t lifeguards equally help people who are drowning and people who aren’t??
Saw the video floating around so I gif’d it for anyone who doesn’t wanna actually watch it haha.
Sing it for the people.
I know I recently reblogged this video but for people who don’t watch Tumblr videos then THIS IS WHAT YOU MISSED.
How Can I Show Feminists That I Am Smarter Than Them? (NCITW)
I think this is the best response this guy has given yet. (Don’t worry, the title is regarding what he’s been asked.)
Reblogging for the bit about no one caring about your hypothetical details. PREACH IT
before ya’ll go talking about “misandry,” lemme explain you a thing
Also, for further information, Manboobz is an excellent resource. Go there. It’s awesome.